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Are Military Martial Arts Good Self-Defense?
I found after the extensive basic BJJ and the lack of, well really anything else, that furthering the MACP and taking the striking and BJJ to outside training such as MMA, Muay Thai, etc… will make you a pretty competent person, as well as dangerous in a street fight. Now I’m not saying MACP is effective. It’s not. To quote my instructor in OSUT, “it’s just enough to get your ass kicked in a bar fight”…. But you can take those basics to other gyms/dojos and mix it up, so to speak, and be extremely effective in a street fight if need be.
Army combatives level 1 course is 5 days long. Level 2 is 10 days. And the "coveted" level three is 4 weeks long. If you're in shape you can be level 3 in a year, supposedly an "expert". 😂😂😂😂😂
i have a spar with my uncle he is doing krav maga despite he was able to defend my punches i don't really want to hit him so i attack him with "normal speed" the bad thing he was not able to attack me counter because he was dealing with my punches…was just a matter of time to brake his defenses…after that i realize that yes he is kinda able to defend himself but he was static no footwork another thing he was not creating space range to defend so he put himself in a defensive position that take all his stamina to block my normal attacks…i don't used tiger claw eagle claw crane claw,hammer fists and chop attacks or elbows he also don't know how to deal with my left body collision a technique from baji quan liu da kai form that causes him to fly against the wall but of course it's not a normal technique to expect…in the end he explain to me that they only teach the students "strainght" punches like jab or right…no circular punches like hooks because he tell me that straight punches come first than circular punches like hook or uppercuts…in my mind this is a flaw…because he don't really know how to deal with circular movements what means someone can bomb him with hooks hammer fist chop slap and even overhand.sorry my english is not my native language.
MACP is still way better than KRAV MAGA
I disagree with you. SCARS is made to take the opposition out, or restrain them at the least. You are talking about soldiers who don't come from athletic backgrounds. That's a no brainier that they are going to be basic or even such at fighting.
And for you civilians who say that you have your way with military soldiers; understand that you are talking about sport fighting an unathletic soldier.
I have been training MMA for 17 years, trained in SCARS, Defendu, Defendo and a few other military martial arts. I have trained boxing, kickboxing, Silat, Eskrima, BJJ, wrestling and many other traditional martial arts. I have also studied law enforcement hand to hand combat. I am what the ideal soldier would be, and I'm sure I would have my way with you civilians bragging about sport fighting. I used to do competitions/tournaments. Sport fighting isn't combat. You would get viciously murdered fighting a soldier who also sport fights.
As for the speaker of this channel, say what you want about some of the other military martial arts, but you are dead wrong about SCARS!
But what about Sambo?
The combative class I learned for a years was the basic ground game, trips, throws, and slams. Until the end where we learn some war time fighting where we learned how to crush the throat, take out the eyes, and go for the groin. That was off the books😅.
Little bit of Yes & a little bit of Not Really & some- Depends.
My understanding is Combatives would be used as a last resort such as if a weapon jams or the ammunition has been exhausted. Then CQC may be useful if the enemy doesn't have a weapon of their own to fight with.
8:04 True, I am selling guns
I guess it depends on what they teach. In the military chances are you won't be fightin hand to hand so the skills you learn are…..
But also our country's military offers courses for civilians, including hand to hand and it's the same as you'd learn in many decent martial arts courses: for example one I participated had arm drags to a takedown, punches, pushes, basic kicks, creating distance etc. (Which makes sense even from a military perspective IF you get to the situation).
However, my participation on the course was due to enjoying the courses & doing a lot of the volunteer training the army offers. If you want to learn self defence or fighting unarmed in general, the military is definitely not the place to go.
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Again, mostly right. The military are well aware in every level what matters is not the size of the dog in the fight but the size of the fight in the dog. They still teach 2 on 1 in the marines, for example, but they also encourage BJJ and MMA for soldiers to do in their free time. I trained with one of the CCCP army special forces trainers and that was interesting. He came from a family of course protection bodyguards for the Imperial family and his teaching was very much about improvised weapons, intelligent situational awareness, the control of trapping to grappling range and training things like a simple eyejab in multiple ways across multiple situations so that repetitions occurred during a day – for example placing an eyeball sized target on the door frame and varying heights on varying sides and simply poking it quickly as they move around the house doing chores etc. The idea was to make it as natural and accurate as possible. We spent a lot of time understanding the basic principles of weapons and therefore to be able to look at household objects in terms of their application.
Bro take off the poolee shirt 😂 you’re killing me
Self defense and combatives are opposites
Self defense is using minimum force to overcome an opponent, you only amp up the damage if you need to. e.g. avoid fights, avoid being rude, descalate situation over violence.
Combatives is using maximum force to kill someone. If your primary assault rifle has no bullets, you switch to your sidearm, then your melee weapon, then unarmed combat.
If you keep being an asshole to others or try to find fights, you have bad self defense. Meanwhile, if you somehow lose your primary weapon, secondary, melee, to end up having to use your unarmed fighting, thats bad combatives. The contrast occurs again!
combat engineer of the army. combatives is used for A:buying time, B:civilian detainment, and C:moving someone away to then. USE THE GUN ON THEM. you've captured it perfectly
Lmao I used to point all of this out during MCMAP training. I had been in when we still did LINE training and honesty I preferred LINE. It focused on combat in our actual gear using our actual gear. As in a rifle with a bayonet, our kbar or a weapon of opportunity. Ninja fighting was always a no go. The only martial arty nonsense in LINE was choke holds, bars and weapon retention techniques. Then there was MCMAP…….and we all laughed and we laughed and we laughed. It was a big joke to the majority of Fleet Marines when it was introduced. Then the boots started showing up with their tan ninja belts and we weren’t allowed to wear our riggers belts anymore……because they looked like the ninja belts. Also, any system an over weight fat assed female Marine can become a black belt in, in about three months, is garbage. Fight me. (I’ll be using my click click pow technique)
There's a reason why a huge part of combatives is pugil sticks. It simulates rushing an opponent and violently beating them with you rifle, which is basically a metal club at that point.
Very impressive breakdown on the topic, dude. You nailed all the biggest points. Even when I was in the Marine Corps, we used to joke that you knew someone was admin when they were a black belt. It really is one of the least needed skills in a combat zone.
I largely disagree about the idea that MMA and boxing aren’t sports though. Does it help more so in civilian uses? Absolutely, but I still think it serves niche cases. The first reason is size and strength will win most fights. Yes, a smaller and weaker fighter who is very proficient can beat a bigger and stronger opponent. But your average person or even fighter doesn't have that level of skill.
But the best skill set you can have is being good with firearms, even as a civilian. The best thing you can learn from BJJ or other combat sports is how to get an attacker off you and create enough distance to arm yourself. Firearms or any weapon really will always beat your combat sports skill set. Really, I see MMA and boxing being good for when you have to deal with a dick who wants to fight but doesn’t want to kill you or seriously hurt you. Even then, I would recommend most people simply not engage if you can; it’s just not worth the risk that can come from it.
I did krav maga for a year. Only reason i learned to fight is because apart from krav we'd do msotly MMA krav maga itself is not really about fighting and actually the disarming techniques they have work very effectively but in a strees situation i'd forget about all of that. Yup guys krav amaga isnt gonna make you immortal like your father thinks